SDSU point guard Xavier Thames (right) - AP |
The national buzz is building for this squad, which is probably the best defensive group in the nation. The Aztecs take the ball away from opponents nearly 9 times a game and give up an average of just 56 points. This group stifles opponents, they chew 'em up and spit 'em out. That message resonated throughout the hallowed Allen Fieldhouse at the University of Kansas earlier this month when SDSU held the Jayhawks to just 20 percent shooting in the first half and went on to beat Kansas 60-57. Kansas almost never loses at home.
What is news is the fact that these Aztecs are The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. Yes, as good as they are on defense, they're almost that bad on offense. This team is long and athletic, and can rebound, but other than point guard Xavier Thames, who's making a strong argument for National Player of the Year, SDSU just can't put the rock in the basket -- especially from outside the paint. It's the darndest thing.
Remarkably, this team that almost everyone including me believes could win the national championship in a couple months has a .438 field goal percentage, which is a dismal 207th in the nation, right behind the vaunted 6-12 UTSA Roadrunners! SDSU's free throw shooting blows, too.
As Sports Illustrated basketball writer Pete Thamel said last week, San Diego State is "talented enough to end up in the Final Four, but flawed enough to be home in the second round." Another SI writer, Luke Winn, said recently that SDSU has "great D, but I have reservations that they can score well enough to go on a six-game streak in the tourney."
As Sports Illustrated basketball writer Pete Thamel said last week, San Diego State is "talented enough to end up in the Final Four, but flawed enough to be home in the second round." Another SI writer, Luke Winn, said recently that SDSU has "great D, but I have reservations that they can score well enough to go on a six-game streak in the tourney."
Granted, those are a lot of Ifs. And, too, there are a handful of teams out there that do have the ability to expose SDSU, especially if no one finds his shooting touch. The Aztecs were in fact very
lucky to win against Utah State Saturday. Thames had to score 31 points, including 10 in overtime, to get it done.
Fisher, who is a good man and a tremendous basketball coach, sometimes relies a little too much on his players' natural talent. If he gets credit for the way this team plays on defense, and he should, he must also shoulder some of the blame for the way this team plays on offense. Moving toward March Madness, he needs to maintain this team's defensive intensity but also focus in practice on outside shooting. Anyone who doesn't think shooting is coachable doesn't know basketball. It is.
The Aztecs simply don't get enough good looks, they don't run offensive plays very effectively. Thames and the rest too often look like they're just winging it out there and relying on their instincts instead of set plays. There's so much more they could to improve their half-court offense, including getting Thames and Davis to really play off each other.
Despite the shooting woes, San Diego State is passing every other test. But there are a lot of conference games left, including challenging road contests against New Mexico, UNLV and Boise State, who almost beat the Aztecs in San Diego.
Is this team really ready for finals? I'm confident that SDSU will be clutching its Scantrons and number two pencils come March and will make a deep NCAA Tournament run. The biggest threat will be teams like Arizona that have highly ranked defenses like SDSU, but have more potent offenses. Is San Diego State up for this challenge? Can they ace the biggest test of this basketball program's life? I think yes. But we shall see.
Despite the shooting woes, San Diego State is passing every other test. But there are a lot of conference games left, including challenging road contests against New Mexico, UNLV and Boise State, who almost beat the Aztecs in San Diego.
Is this team really ready for finals? I'm confident that SDSU will be clutching its Scantrons and number two pencils come March and will make a deep NCAA Tournament run. The biggest threat will be teams like Arizona that have highly ranked defenses like SDSU, but have more potent offenses. Is San Diego State up for this challenge? Can they ace the biggest test of this basketball program's life? I think yes. But we shall see.
Jamie:
ReplyDeleteGreat post and I appreciate your loyalty. You make a great case for SD going all the way. If Duke falls by the way side, I'll go in the tank with you for the Aztecs...................john
Thanks much, John. Remember, I said SDSU has a chance of winning it all because of the team's ridiculously good defense, but with their shaky shooting, there are no guarantees. As for Duke, well, don't you ever root for ay underdogs? :)
DeleteSan Diego State's Defense, especially their Rebounding and Turnover ratios will keep them in all their games moving forward. They are not intimidated by anyone, as was their presence at the Allen Fieldhouse on Jan 5th where the broke Kansas' 60+ non-C home record--a record that stood since 2006--is a great example of SDSU's demeanor!
ReplyDeleteSDSU also plays extremely well in neutral envrironments. Exaple was during the Wooden where they beat both ranked Creighton and Marquette! SDSU's only loss this season was against #1 Arizona where they launced a comeback only to fall short where one/two possession changed it all. Bottom line: SDSU is battle tested - Arizona, Kansas, Creighton. And the MountainWest is a bear for any team--playing at elevation Air Force, New Mexico, Colorado State, Utah State, etc...
So come March, if SDSU can get a 2 or 3, they can make it to the Elite 8 where a rematch with Kansas is quite possible. Or to the final 4 where a rematch with Arizona could in the mix.
Time will tell, but one thing for sure, SDSU's bench is much deeper, and their PG Thames is having some Kemba Walker like performances!
Did you really have to remind me of Kemba Walker? It was Walker, you'll recall, who had such a great game for UConn in the Sweet Sixteen win against the Aztecs three years ago.
DeleteOther than Thames, Shrigley is their only gunner amd he is ice cold! Polee has potential, but lacks playing time. If Shrigley can get his mojo back, and with Thames being Thames, this team will have a chance! Let's not forget the inside game where SDSU is also missing a lot of under the basket shots :) > I bet they are giving away 6-8 points/game in the missed under the basket shots! Now firm up the free-throws, make those under-the-basket shots, get Shrigley's mojo back, and SDSU will see rematches with Kansas and Zona! Just now mentioned on ESPN, San Diego State has had many close calls, but they still win anyway! These are the type of teams that can go far in the Tourney!
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you on Shrigley but the guy is a shooter and will definitely find his stroke. He just needs to keep firing. I think that we will be very dangerous when he gets hot. He just needs minutes.
DeleteOne of the unsung heroes in all of this is Justin Hutson, the master of defense on the SDSU coaching staff. He was on the bench when Cowhide, Tapley, Thomas, White and Gay went to the Sweet Sixteen, only to get knocked out by the eventual National Champions. He went to UNLV for two years. Now he is back, doing his thing. On the offensive side, these guys seem to do what it takes. Shrigley and Thames aren't the only potentially great shooters. Quinn, Polee, Obrien and even Shepard have to be on that list. Fisher has ten or eleven players who can all contribute. We will know a lot more about this team after they play Boise State, UNLV and New Mexico on the road. If they run the table, watch out. I could be a great Dance
ReplyDeleteThanks. Hutson does indeed deserve some of the credit for this defense. But as I wrote above, if SDSU's coaches deserve some of the credit for this stellar defense, they must also shoulder some of the blame for this anemic offense. This team has played 19 games. Just when is this so-called potential shooting prowess from Quinn, Polee, O'Brien and Shepard going to materialize? And who or what is "Cowhide?" Are you referring to Kawhi Leonard? Is that a nickname for him that I don't know about, or just a really lame attempt at humor?
Delete"Cowhide" is what spell checker does with Kawhi. I missed it, before I hit the send key. As for you wanting to slice and dice the offense from the defense, they are ranked in the top five, with the potential to be the greatest Aztecs basketball team...ever. Not unlike the Sweet Sixteen team, they win. They find a way. Their "try level" is top five. Against Kansas, they made free throws and clutch baskets when needed. Against Arizona, the contest came down to an inbounds play by Arizona at the end of the game. Defense failed them, it was early in the season and they matched up well with the Wildcats. They also matched up well against Creighton and Marquette -- all very different teams. Eleven players, who all contribute and grind down the opposition. They just win.
DeleteYes, I agree, they just win. And this could indeed be the best Aztec team ever. It's fun to watch this team fight hard and play absolutely off-the-charts defense. But it's also very tough to watch them shot so poorly. If you watched the colorado state game yesterday, which was a home game for the Aztecs, you saw that SDSU clanked at the free throw line, again, and no one other than Thames could shoot the rock, again. It was pathetic. As great as the Aztecs are on D - and they are truly awesome - this team's dismal shooting will likely bite them in the ass this season. There is no doubt in my mind that SDSU will lose more than one MWC game, including the game in the pit at new mexico, unless they start hitting more of their shots. And in the big dance, the truly elite teams like syracuse and arizona, who have great defenses like SDSU but much better offenses, will very likely expose this glaring weakness. Can the Aztecs win a national championship with such a horrific shooting percentage? Yes, they can. But it won't be easy. Again, Sports Illustrated basketball writer Pete Thamel was spot on when he said, "San Diego State is talented enough to end up in the Final Four, but flawed enough to be home in the second round."
DeleteAs the Seattle Seahawks just affirmed "Offense may sell tickets (probably nowhere more than in "bandwagon San Diego"), but defense wins championships." At Boise State this Wednesday won't be easy. At UNLV and at New Mexico will also be wonderful tests for this surprising group of eleven. Their team statistics speak for themselves, especially 19-1 and 18th in RPI. I wouldn't bet against them.
DeleteWhat are others saying? Here's a link to the latest: http://collegespun.com/features/here-are-5-college-basketball-teams-that-are-really-impressing-so-far-this-season
I wouldn't bet against them either, as I said in my story above. But your argument works against you. Yes, their team statistics do indeed speak for themselves: one of the best defensive teams in the nation statistically, and one of the nation's worst shooting teams statistically. You've choses to highlight the former stat and ignore the latter one.
DeleteOnly thing I would somewhat disagree with is your statement regarding SDSU being a perennial power I would probably reserve that statement for teams that have that have a longer track record of national success
ReplyDeleteThanks for reading my news blog, anonymous. But with all respect, next time you post a comment, please do a little homework first, because you have absolutely no freaking idea what you are talking about. Longer track record of national success? Really? San Diego State has been a basketball power on the west coast for the last 15 years. The team has won 20 games each of the last nine years and has made the postseason 10 of the last 12 years. This will be its fifth straight NCAA Tournament appearance. In 2011 SDSU, which featured Kawhi Leonard, now a star with the San Antonio Spurs, was ranked #4 in the nation and lost in the Sweet Sixteen to eventual national champion U-Conn. This year, if they keep playing at this level, they will be as high as a #1 seed. Are you really this clueless or do you just like stirring things up?
ReplyDeleteThanks for all the stats but I really cannot put a team with 9 NCAA tournament appearances since 1975 and 3 wins in those appearances in the category of national powerhouse 0 final fours 0 championships and 3 wins 20 win seasons are great but you play in MWC not the most competitive conference in the nation Steve Fischer is an excellent coach and has brought national exposure to SDSU in recent years but I cannot put your program on the same level of schools with more tourney appearances and greater success Not sure why you bring up Kawhi Leonard in regards to SDSU being a perennial powerhouse but producing 9 players in your schools history with only 2 of those playing more than 4 yrs or more in the NBA isnt all that impressive SDSU has had great season to date and if they continue to play at their current level will do well come post season play I just cant put them in the class of perennial national powerhouse
DeleteThe Mountain West championship goes through New Mexico. That's all that needs to be said.
ReplyDeleteDude, seriously? Uh, no, that is not all that needs to be said. New Mexico is a very good team they are tough to beat at home, as always. But San Diego State is the fifth-ranked team in the nation. The MWC championship obviously goes through San Diego. Nice try.
DeleteSDSU is gradually getting better each game at the FT line. Look at their FT% the first 15 games.They get to the line a lot! If their FT % continues to improve. It will more than make up for the FG%. Keep in mind, that part of the reason for the poor FG% is they are getting fouled on a lot of shots!
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